~ならいざしらず
nara iza shirazu
It might be different for ... but
Formation 接続
Full formation notes
N/plain clause + ならいざ知らず
Notation: N = noun; V dictionary = dictionary-form verb; V stem = the stem before ます; plain clause = plain-form clause; negative stem = the form before ない. Follow the attachment shown above.
Explanation 説明
Allows that A might be understandable while rejecting or questioning B.
Examples 例文
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初心者ならいざ知らず、教師がこれを知らないのは困る。
It might be understandable for a beginner, but it is a problem if a teacher does not know this.
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初心者ならいざ知らず、医師がこれを知らないのは困る。
It might be understandable for a beginner, but it is a problem if a doctor does not know this.
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初心者ならいざ知らず、指導者がこれを知らないのは困る。
It might be understandable for a beginner, but it is a problem if a leader does not know this.
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初心者ならいざ知らず、経営者がこれを知らないのは困る。
It might be understandable for a beginner, but it is a problem if a manager does not know this.
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初心者ならいざ知らず、政治家がこれを知らないのは困る。
It might be understandable for a beginner, but it is a problem if a politician does not know this.
How related patterns differ 比較
にかけては evaluates ability in a field; にかかっては puts matters in someone's hands. ならいざ知らず and ならまだしも contrast an understandable case with a problematic one. に限ったことではない extends the scope, while というところだ estimates a limit.
| Pattern | Meaning | Example |
|---|---|---|
| ~ならいざしらず | It might be different for ... but | 初心者ならいざ知らず、教師がこれを知らないのは困る。 It might be understandable for a beginner, but it is a problem if a teacher does not know this. |
| ~にかけては/~にかけても | When it comes to; in the field of | 日本語にかけては、彼女は誰にも負けない。 When it comes to Japanese, she is second to none. |
| ~というところだ | At most; approximately | 会議の準備に使えるのは、一週間というところだ。 We have about a week at most to prepare for the meeting. |
| ~ならまだしも | If it were only; might be acceptable for | 会議が一時間ならまだしも、五時間も続くのはつらい。 An hour might be bearable, but five hours of the meeting is exhausting. |
| ~にかかっては | In someone's hands; when handled by | あの職人にかかっては、古い椅子も新品のようになる。 In that craftsperson's hands, even an old chair becomes like new. |
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